On today’s episode of the podcast, Phil is joined by his friend and business mentor, Robert “Butch” Rogers. Butch is a CPA who has his own accounting business and also works as a consultant for other CPA’s and producers in the oil and gas industry and as a contract CFO for a few oil and gas companies. Phil and Butch share how they got to know one another, how they both ended up living in Ohio and how Phil got started with his business, SherWare software 25 years ago. They chat about how Butch helped Phil with accounting items to include in his software and how SherWare software continually evolves according to the customers’ needs.
3:35 How Phil and Butch got to know each other
4:07 Leaving Texas and starting his own CPA business
5:37 Finding his niche as a CPA
7:38 Butch noticing that oil and gas clients didn’t have great accounting software
9:06 How Butch helped Phil with writing the SherWare software
11:50 Phil figuring out that he needed to focus on oil and gas
13:40 How SherWare has grown organically and been tailored to customers
16:10 The ease of reporting that comes with SherWare
19:56 What smaller, independent producers are currently facing in the oil and gas industry
24:01 Working as a contract CFO and a consultant for other CPA’s and smaller producers
25:11 What Butch’s accounting firm will be doing next
26:33 How the numbers tell a story in accounting
Robert “Butch” Rogers is a Certified Public Accountant with a Master’s Degree in Taxation from Texas Tech University. He is a CPA in Wooster, Ohio and is a partner in the CPA firm Rogers Accounting Solutions, Inc.
Butch has over 35 years of experience working in and with clients in the oil and gas industry. As a college student, he worked as a roustabout in West Texas. Upon graduating from college he worked for Gulf Oil as a business administration trainee, working in the Midland, Texas district office and the Monahans, Texas field office. He gained valuable oil and gas tax experience working with Coopers and Lybrand in Lubbock, Texas. During his time as a practicing CPA, Butch served a number of small independent producers as a trusted tax and business advisor.
His speaking experience includes conducting continuing education seminars and webinars for various state societies of CPAs, Ohio Oil and Gas Association, COPAS, and Bisk Education.
Treating employees right and creating a positive work culture will save you thousands of dollars by simply retaining staff. Today on the podcast, Phil is joined by his friend and business coach, Scott Ballard, founder of the Confidence Coach. Scott shares why employers need to focus on employee retention and creating a workplace that people are excited about. He also discusses what he does as a business coach and shares the structure of some of his coaching programs.
1:44 Scott’s background and how he got into his business coaching
5:53 What coaching is from Scott’s perspective
8:55 Learning to leverage a team in your business
10:20 How coaching is similar to brain surgery
12:31 Ditching limiting beliefs
13:14 Retaining good employees and developing underperforming employees
18:20 Finding out what motivates employees internally
22:20 The cost of hiring new employees
25:38 Scott’s coaching programs
29:12 Creating a family-like culture at the workplace
33:50 The importance of investing in your payroll
Scott Ballard is the founder of Confidence Coach LLC and is an author, speaker and coach for business owners with employees. He has 35 years of successful business ownership as his background. The last 10 years Scott has been coaching business owners on the strategies and tactics of engaging their employees in a fun, positive, respectful way. He has worked with everything from small businesses to Fortune 500 companies and has developed five different processes/trainings that build engagement, culture and leadership within businesses.
Scott is passionate and adamant about leveraging for each company the hopes, dreams and aspirations of not only the company, but of each employee in the company; which is the greatest untapped asset in every company in the world.
For the past 41 years Roy Jackson, CEO at Energy OnRamp, has been involved in the oil and gas industry and made a name for himself as a someone who can make and create deals between buyers and sellers.
In today’s episode, we asked Roy what is the key to lasting so long in the industry when it’s such an up and down adventure.
As you hear Roy speak, one gets the feeling that he was born to sell, which explains how he’s made a career out of connecting buyers and sellers in any part of the industry. Beginning at Schlumberger in the 70s, and moving into the oil and gas software space in the 1990s, Roy began to notice that his role in the industry was more than connecting people to solutions.
Solutions were no longer enough. He had to help them make the best decisions for their business if they’re going to survive.
“Energy companies are generating a large amount of data,” Jackson said. “You have these entrepreneurial guys who are getting private equity capital from somewhere, buy assets and then all of a sudden, along with the closing of that deal, they realize they don’t have any assets, and in 60 days we’re going to have to do revenue distribution and joint interest billings.”
These entrepreneurs would have to go hire someone and train them on the basics of the industry, and then everything around setting up that company revolved around regulatory reporting for the state and for setting up revenue distributions, he said.
“I was discovering that people never truly got the system set up correctly years later after running into them and that they never knew how to set up the management and reporting system the way they wanted to,” Jackson said.
Now they were going to throw everything out and start over on a new system.
To expedite or stop businesses from going through the long and excruciating process, he said, he started his new consulting firm Energy OnRamp to help companies take their financial data, get it into a system that works for them and help them understand how to present that data so its “attractive for bank capital, a private investor or whatever it takes to drill and capture the kind of opportunities that come in the energy industry,” Jackson said.
“Our team gives your business the tools within your own system or another system so that you can get the info you need to get the capital you need, and to make better management decisions to manage the multi-million dollar assets.”
As we know in the industry, wells aren’t cheap to drill.
Unconventional well plays cost millions of dollars to operate, displacing many smaller independents from participating. Like what we’re seeing with our own clients in the industry, many operators are selling wells because they are reaching retirement age and there is not generation coming up behind them to take over, so they’re forced to sell.
On the flip side, a lot of wells are either combining with bigger forces to go all in on unconventional plays or picking up conventional wells that larger companies are offloading to support these unconventional drills, and find themselves suddenly with new wells to operate 30-60 days after purchase.
So what makes a company able to stay afloat, even when oil prices skyrocket above $100/bbl or plummet to $9/bbl?
Roy’s answer: “The simple answer is that you just have to stay. I can’t tell you the number off landmen and geologists, that sacked groceries at Wal-Mart when Midland was not near as prosperous, but they’re reaping big-time benefits for being patient. Stay and find a new way to make a living during the slow down period.
“What we’ve been doing in Midland for the past 40 years is to figure out how to stay in the oil and gas business. Oil and gas people are some of the best entrepreneurs. It makes me proud to be in the oil and gas business.”
Connect with Roy Jackson:
Starting his career in “the patch” in 1977, Roy started developing his energy network with tenures at Schlumberger, National Oilwell (Bowen) and Homco International. He has directed the sales and marketing efforts at energy software companies involved in upstream accounting, including Midland Southwest Software (OGAS) and WolfePak.
Mr. Jackson has extensive experience in the acquisitions & divestment of oil and gas assets. Jackson has successfully completed over 200 transactions, totaling over one half billion dollars in oil and gas upstream, midstream and service-related assets. He was the co-founder of Capital Energy Advisors and Simon Energy Advisors. Jackson also was formerly a principal partner at Simplex Energy Solutions in Midland, TX.
Roy is a member of PBPA, ADAM Permian, and SPE. He is also past chairman of FEPA, a Permian focused networking forum for the Energy Industry.
Energy OnRamp consults on accounting, production, and anything bringing data in from the field and anything that is back office related to running an operating, service or midstream company.
Listen to the previous episode: #001: How the Oil and Gas Industry Survives Year After Year
Check out the next episode: #003: How COPAS Transformed Mike Cougevan’s Career
Twenty-five years ago, co-host Phil Sherwood, started a software company called SherWare, Inc. to optimize the accounting and distribution processes for oil and gas operators to save them time and money, two things we need plenty of in the oil and gas industry.
When he started the business, the price of oil was around $15 a barrel and over the course of his career, it’s gone down to $9 and as high as $100.
Through all the ups and downs, We’re Still Here, and like so many clients and friends in the industry — so are you.
So what makes a business be able to withstand the unpredictable market conditions? What characteristics does the CEO have to have? What are the tactics and secrets they’ve used to be successful no matter what?
This is exactly what we want to uncover and inspire on this podcast.
Each episode will feature guest interviews and episodes to showcase the best and brightest in the industry and find out how they’ve thrived in a volatile market and what the future of the industry looks like to them.
We’ll also be showcasing business ideas, tips, tricks for scaling and growing — you happen to be in the oil and gas industry, but you’re running and growing a business and in order to continually expand, you have to think differently and be ready to grow with your team.
At the end of the day, we want you to be able to say, “We’re Still Here” no matter what happens around you.
Check out the next Episode: #002: After 41 years, Roy Jackson has the key to surviving in the oil and gas industry